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Monday, January 28, 2008

A discourse on a discursive matter

'Love' is a word that various poets have made various rhymes with, such as 'above', 'shove', 'gov', 'turtle dove', and 'for the purposes of protection from radiation you are legally required to wear this lead-lined glove'. These rhymes have been used with more-or-less equal frequency, though my personal favourite is the 'glove' thingy.

Poets have been endlessly talking about 'love's morn', and 'love's dawn', and 'a love that mourns', and 'lovelorn', and 'like a happy little gambolling fawn', and 'love that is like a sheep shorn', and 'love gone', and even 'jewellery is something that I love to adorn', although that last one is a bit suspect. Yes: if you are a poet, you could do worse than talk about love.

But, to get to my point. My point is this: love is something that has appeared in various contexts in various poetic traditions for centuries. Aside from my point, there are lots of other things to say about love. What good is it? What do you do when you fall in love, and is it all right if you romantically fall in love with an apple pie rather than a person? If not, why not, according to what philosophy, what are the arguments for and against, and would it be all right to do it with a sweet Lebanese pastry instead?

At the moment, I'm reading Philip Sidney's Arcadia, a comedy of love and lust written in Elizabethan times. It's full of insights into the Elizabethan conception of love - courtly love, romantic love, love of family and love of friends. I can't help but be struck as to how different it is to modern conceptions of love, or lack thereof. Let's do a little compare and contrast, shall we?



Elizabethan LoveModern Love
On falling in loveAll sorts of dramatic similes are used - 'pierced with Cupid's bow', 'struck with glistering beams from her eyen', 'Your eyes do slay me', etc.
Frequently, modern couples skip this bit, as well as anything else that is inconvenient - marriage, commitment, children, etc. (Sarah Silverman: "I want to get an abortion - but my boyfriend is having trouble getting me pregnant.") For the term 'love', substitute 'lust'.
On meeting your loverOne good way is to dress yourself up in the clothes of the opposite sex (like Pyrocles in Arcadia, or Viola in Shakespeare's 12th Night)
Pick up lines! (eg, "The voices in my head told me to come over and talk to you", "So, you're a girl, huh?")
CourtshipFrequently involving flowers, unlikely speeches to one another that come out as sonnets ("If I profane with my unworthiest hand/ This holy shrine, the gentle sin is this..." etc, Romeo and Juliet)
Courtship? Something that happens either during tennis or after the divorce.
Revealing your true desires to the one you long afterFrequently done in song, or verses written in some obscure Grecian form, such as Iambic Pentameter, Trenchant Heptameter, or Galloping Archaics.
People exchange phone numbers, in order to reveal their true feelings through an expansive poetic form called 'TXT messages'. Phone numbers can also be exchanged as an agreement not to communicate (eg, "As an empty courtesy, here's my phone number. Let's not turn this beautiful one-night stand into a horrible long-lasting relationship.")


So what's better: Elizabethan love or modern love? I have no idea, but is there any of that apple pie left? I have a sonnet that I wanted to read out to it...

10 comments:

alexis said...

Don't feel you've fully explored the potential rimability of "love" there, Timnus. That shepherd bloke says it all for love rhymes with:

Come live with me and be my love
And we will all the pleasures prove ...


Which goes to show, if nothing else, that virtually anything can rhyme with "love". Also, that shepherds are amorous blokes, and not to be trusted in high summer. (Let that be a warning to you, young person.)

alexis said...

Furthermore:

Those who think I o'eruse the word "bloke"
Don't know of the joy of hearing it spoke.

proserpine said...

Recent publications suggest that the scholars at the University of Foxtel would beg to differ as regards the "modernity" of amorous affairs under the Tudor monarchs.

TimT said...

A - Ah yes. The much-favoured old 'luv/pruv' line. Also acceptable are 'move', 'groove', and maybe even on a good day 'Louvre'. And bloke away. Blokedy blokedy bloke!

P - An impressive publication, to be sure, but I'll only be won over if the whole of the dialogue is in Trenchant Heptameter or Galloping Archaics. But thank you for the link!

Maria said...

I don't know if there's any apple pie left, TimT, since Jason Biggs' character Jim did away with the pie in the modern examination of lust/love ...

Ah me, can the sonnet be read to another?

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